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	<description>Technology changes learning by design - not accident</description>
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		<title>By: Why My Colleagues Think I&#8217;m Weird &#124; Teaching Generation Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why My Colleagues Think I&#8217;m Weird &#124; Teaching Generation Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been reading some of Dean Groom&#8217;s stuff and spending a lot of time nodding and mentally saying &#8220;Uh huh.&#8221; His thoughts and much [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been reading some of Dean Groom&#8217;s stuff and spending a lot of time nodding and mentally saying &#8220;Uh huh.&#8221; His thoughts and much [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dskmag</title>
		<link>http://deangroom.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/ed-techs-are-stupid/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>dskmag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, DET actually calls Twitter a dating site, so I hear. I am fortunate in that our principal allows me to run independent internet lines, so I run my own filters. I don&#039;t think IWBs are that great in High School in AU, though UK teachers love them. I&#039;ve not found they give a return on investment to be honest. Have a look at the cheaper option - Avermedia digital OHP, this allows teachers to project paper/objects to a projector.

Teachers who don&#039;t have sufficient access, or experience to deal with IWBs or learn how to make killer powerpoint or visual materials really take to them. Best of all, they can get a student to work them easily - so the paper can be captured and shared via a flash drive.

They are cheap, simple, portable and have had a big impact in more traditional teachers. The pedagogy doesnt shift much, but at least the content is on screen and can be saved/shared.

Small steps ... thanks for the comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, DET actually calls Twitter a dating site, so I hear. I am fortunate in that our principal allows me to run independent internet lines, so I run my own filters. I don&#8217;t think IWBs are that great in High School in AU, though UK teachers love them. I&#8217;ve not found they give a return on investment to be honest. Have a look at the cheaper option &#8211; Avermedia digital OHP, this allows teachers to project paper/objects to a projector.</p>
<p>Teachers who don&#8217;t have sufficient access, or experience to deal with IWBs or learn how to make killer powerpoint or visual materials really take to them. Best of all, they can get a student to work them easily &#8211; so the paper can be captured and shared via a flash drive.</p>
<p>They are cheap, simple, portable and have had a big impact in more traditional teachers. The pedagogy doesnt shift much, but at least the content is on screen and can be saved/shared.</p>
<p>Small steps &#8230; thanks for the comment</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Searl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Searl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed the post and see a lot of what you say in our school. I&#039;ve been guilty of it myself but am at least aware of my limitations and trying to learn some new skills to then teach my kids better.
Whats your view on IWB&#039;s ? Will this allow &quot;non&quot; ICT teachers to have a different tech tool in another space and allow ICT to be taught by trained experts? or does it just shift the issues elsewhere? 

I get frustrated that in trying to upskill  I have to wait 2 weeks to get installs done by techies. I am not deemed competent at work, (nor is our ICT expert) although I complete these installs at home easily. DET NSW seems to block so much from those teachers trying to learn new skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed the post and see a lot of what you say in our school. I&#8217;ve been guilty of it myself but am at least aware of my limitations and trying to learn some new skills to then teach my kids better.<br />
Whats your view on IWB&#8217;s ? Will this allow &#8220;non&#8221; ICT teachers to have a different tech tool in another space and allow ICT to be taught by trained experts? or does it just shift the issues elsewhere? </p>
<p>I get frustrated that in trying to upskill  I have to wait 2 weeks to get installs done by techies. I am not deemed competent at work, (nor is our ICT expert) although I complete these installs at home easily. DET NSW seems to block so much from those teachers trying to learn new skills.</p>
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		<title>By: dskmag</title>
		<link>http://deangroom.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/ed-techs-are-stupid/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>dskmag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KLA - Key Learning Area. Recognizing poor use is the first step to acknowledging you can do better - and we can always at least try to do better.  QA is hardly a low level activity, and I think you&#039;ll see your students really get a lot from it, and look forward to reading your reflections and theirs.

I agree, IT seems to be focused on keeping a system running, rather than looking at what it could do. But that involves a fundamental change and recognition that change is needed. Directing IT to me is about observing how fast technology is changing learning. It is no longer two things, one facilitating the other.

I think administrators are really struggling to understand this, and really want to have some one acting as a mediator between school and IT. In fact they need someone who can bring the two together, not just pass messages back and forth.

The classroom teacher has an amazing opportunity to deliver powerful practice, but poor use gives kids bad habits, and further fuels the arguement that &#039;teachers&#039; (as a group) are unable to understand technology&#039;s finer technical aspects. The truth is, we don&#039;t need to anymore. QA is a great example of that and in middle school, I think your passion will engage students, and you have a new array of tools to deliver it.

Just don&#039;t expect everyone to go &#039;wow&#039;. It takes a lot of time to even bring a few teachers on board, but no time to get the kids interested.

Its always about the learning, never the bling for me, and extending my classroom - beyond the physical space, and the time spent in class. Its now almost midnight, and I&#039;ve &#039;taught&#039; half a dozen kids tonight via classroom technology I&#039;ve put in place this week.

And I&#039;m happy to do it and keep doing it. An hour spent &#039;googling and pasting&#039; is a waste of everyones time. Maybe this is why so many students are not choosing IT subjects ... they are over low level activities at school, when at home they are engaged in activities and social networks that actually form part of their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KLA &#8211; Key Learning Area. Recognizing poor use is the first step to acknowledging you can do better &#8211; and we can always at least try to do better.  QA is hardly a low level activity, and I think you&#8217;ll see your students really get a lot from it, and look forward to reading your reflections and theirs.</p>
<p>I agree, IT seems to be focused on keeping a system running, rather than looking at what it could do. But that involves a fundamental change and recognition that change is needed. Directing IT to me is about observing how fast technology is changing learning. It is no longer two things, one facilitating the other.</p>
<p>I think administrators are really struggling to understand this, and really want to have some one acting as a mediator between school and IT. In fact they need someone who can bring the two together, not just pass messages back and forth.</p>
<p>The classroom teacher has an amazing opportunity to deliver powerful practice, but poor use gives kids bad habits, and further fuels the arguement that &#8216;teachers&#8217; (as a group) are unable to understand technology&#8217;s finer technical aspects. The truth is, we don&#8217;t need to anymore. QA is a great example of that and in middle school, I think your passion will engage students, and you have a new array of tools to deliver it.</p>
<p>Just don&#8217;t expect everyone to go &#8216;wow&#8217;. It takes a lot of time to even bring a few teachers on board, but no time to get the kids interested.</p>
<p>Its always about the learning, never the bling for me, and extending my classroom &#8211; beyond the physical space, and the time spent in class. Its now almost midnight, and I&#8217;ve &#8216;taught&#8217; half a dozen kids tonight via classroom technology I&#8217;ve put in place this week.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m happy to do it and keep doing it. An hour spent &#8216;googling and pasting&#8217; is a waste of everyones time. Maybe this is why so many students are not choosing IT subjects &#8230; they are over low level activities at school, when at home they are engaged in activities and social networks that actually form part of their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren O'Grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren O'Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dean, 
It is an interesting post I sense your frustration and hope that you have leadership support so that all teachers eventually can access these facilities.  My main thinking with this is, In education we are the only industry actively integrating ICT everyone else just uses it.  There are no battles in the private sector it is just expected, hopefully we will get to a stage where it is just done and not battled to be &quot;integrated&quot;
Lauren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dean,<br />
It is an interesting post I sense your frustration and hope that you have leadership support so that all teachers eventually can access these facilities.  My main thinking with this is, In education we are the only industry actively integrating ICT everyone else just uses it.  There are no battles in the private sector it is just expected, hopefully we will get to a stage where it is just done and not battled to be &#8220;integrated&#8221;<br />
Lauren</p>
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		<title>By: teacherman79</title>
		<link>http://deangroom.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/ed-techs-are-stupid/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>teacherman79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no tech guys like you where I work.  Education and technology have mostly been seen as somewhat separate entities.  I think they are moving away from that some, but probably not enough based on who and how they are hiring for new tech positions they are creating.  A true educational technologist&#039;s focus should always be on STUDENT learning, and I have rarely, if ever, seen your focus shift away from that objective. [#4 out of 10 my big fat Montana A@#$, is arse a bad word in Australia] 

&quot;I see some amazing teachers doing amazing things, and I also see shocking uses of ICT. Perhaps limiting access to ICT services, based on competency - will serve to improve the teaching and learning, and in turn will start to see flow on changes in the curriculum.&quot; -

This quote scares me a little...I am probably guilty of some of the shocking uses of ICT you speak of.  However, I am excited about the upcoming year because of the things I have been learning about read/write technologies.  Learning this stuff (Web2.0) takes time...time that many teachers are not yet ready or willing to invest until they see teachers like you successfully implementing it with students.  I like how K. Jarrett put it in one of his WS&#039;s on being a connected teacher...It is not about having the time...it is about prioritizing your time...

I am not sure what KLA means...probably very obvious...

I talked with my boss about QA yesterday...I get to use it in my classroom...I hope I implement things in a good way...Keep my focus on student learning like you do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no tech guys like you where I work.  Education and technology have mostly been seen as somewhat separate entities.  I think they are moving away from that some, but probably not enough based on who and how they are hiring for new tech positions they are creating.  A true educational technologist&#8217;s focus should always be on STUDENT learning, and I have rarely, if ever, seen your focus shift away from that objective. [#4 out of 10 my big fat Montana A@#$, is arse a bad word in Australia] </p>
<p>&#8220;I see some amazing teachers doing amazing things, and I also see shocking uses of ICT. Perhaps limiting access to ICT services, based on competency &#8211; will serve to improve the teaching and learning, and in turn will start to see flow on changes in the curriculum.&#8221; -</p>
<p>This quote scares me a little&#8230;I am probably guilty of some of the shocking uses of ICT you speak of.  However, I am excited about the upcoming year because of the things I have been learning about read/write technologies.  Learning this stuff (Web2.0) takes time&#8230;time that many teachers are not yet ready or willing to invest until they see teachers like you successfully implementing it with students.  I like how K. Jarrett put it in one of his WS&#8217;s on being a connected teacher&#8230;It is not about having the time&#8230;it is about prioritizing your time&#8230;</p>
<p>I am not sure what KLA means&#8230;probably very obvious&#8230;</p>
<p>I talked with my boss about QA yesterday&#8230;I get to use it in my classroom&#8230;I hope I implement things in a good way&#8230;Keep my focus on student learning like you do&#8230;</p>
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